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Rubus procerus - P.J.Müll.

Common Name Himalayan Giant Blackberry
Family Rosaceae
USDA hardiness 4-8
Known Hazards None known
Habitats Not known
Range C. Europe.
Edibility Rating    (5 of 5)
Other Uses    (1 of 5)
Weed Potential No
Medicinal Rating    (0 of 5)
Care (info)
Fully Hardy Moist Soil Semi-shade Full sun
Rubus procerus Himalayan Giant Blackberry


Rubus procerus Himalayan Giant Blackberry

 

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Summary


Physical Characteristics

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Rubus procerus is a deciduous Shrub growing to 10 m (32ft 10in) at a fast rate.
See above for USDA hardiness. It is hardy to UK zone 5 and is not frost tender. It is in flower from July to August, and the seeds ripen from August to September. The species is hermaphrodite (has both male and female organs) and is pollinated by Insects. The plant is self-fertile.
Suitable for: light (sandy), medium (loamy) and heavy (clay) soils and prefers well-drained soil. Suitable pH: mildly acid, neutral and basic (mildly alkaline) soils. It can grow in semi-shade (light woodland) or no shade. It prefers moist soil.

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Synonyms

R. armeniacus. R. procerus.

Habitats

Woodland Garden Sunny Edge; Dappled Shade;

Edible Uses

Edible Parts: Fruit
Edible Uses:

Fruit - raw or cooked in pies, cakes etc[3, 105, 183]. The fruit can also be dried for later use[183]. Very large for a blackberry[50, 183] with a very pleasant rich flavour when fully ripe[K].

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Medicinal Uses

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None known

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Other Uses

Dye

A purple to dull blue dye is obtained from the fruit[168].

Special Uses

References   More on Other Uses

Cultivation details

Easily grown in a good well-drained loamy soil in sun or semi-shade[1, 11, 200]. A form of this species, known as 'Himalayan giant', is commonly cultivated in temperate zones for its edible fruit[50]. Although a blackberry, the stems are often perennial and can fruit for more than one year[50]. This name may be wrongly applied . According to the new RHS Dictionary of Gardening, the correct name for the 'Himalayan Giant' blackberry is R. procerus. P.J.Muell., the name R. discolor is misapplied. Plants in this genus are notably susceptible to honey fungus[200].

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Propagation

Seed - requires stratification and is best sown in early autumn in a cold frame. Stored seed requires one month stratification at about 3°c and is best sown as early as possible in the year. Prick out the seedlings when they are large enough to handle and grow on in a cold frame. Plant them out into their permanent positions in late spring of the following year. Cuttings of half-ripe wood, July/August in a frame[200]. Tip layering in July. Plant out in autumn. Division in early spring or just before leaf-fall in the autumn[200].

Other Names

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Found In

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Weed Potential

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Conservation Status

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Growth: S = slow M = medium F = fast. Soil: L = light (sandy) M = medium H = heavy (clay). pH: A = acid N = neutral B = basic (alkaline). Shade: F = full shade S = semi-shade N = no shade. Moisture: D = dry M = Moist We = wet Wa = water.

 

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Rubus procerus

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Mar 25 2011 12:00AM

I grew this at an altitude of 200m+ in Cumbria and it was not as productive as the local native varieties. Underwhelming.

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Readers comment

A. Wigmore   Sun Oct 27 07:40:57 2002

I found on the internet that this plant is supposed to be very invasive at the expense of local species. Is it a good idea to introduce it in my garden, in the middle of the countryside?

Jean C. Fisher   Sat May 22 00:01:57 2004

Luther Burbank hybridized a robus which he dubbed "Himalaya" in 1885 from vines originally sent to him "from India" ("Partner of Nature", Wilbur Hall, 1939, D. Appleton-Century Company, Inc., NY & London, p. 192.) However, the reference contained here to fruit "not produced in great abundance" is directly contradicted by the words of Burbank in the aforementioned volume, to wit:

"...For there appeared among seedlings of the second generation an individual vine that was a very marked improvement on its parents. It proved to have so many fine qualities that it was introduced, in 1885, and widely sold. I called it the Himalaya. Its berry was and is large, glossy, and sweet, BUT THE OUTSTANDING CHARACTERISTIC OF THE VARIETY IS ITS PRODIGIOUS POWER OF BEARING..." (my emphasis).

So, it would seem as though, perhaps, sales methods on the parts of some less than scrupulous nurseries have probably (at some point in the past), once again, sold a more easily available variety and labeled it with a more desirable variety's nomenclature... (This is a problem that plagued Burbank for his entire career...)

Lauren   Sat Aug 9 2008

I live in the Pacific Northwest of the U.S., a very temperate coastal climate here. This giant himalayan blackberry takes over farmland and woodland alike here. It is obnoxious because it makes it hard to get to anything. The plants are constantly needing to be cut back off of roads here. A warning about this plant! I have recently been wondering how best to start removing this plant from the woods so that I can walk around picking berries and studying the plants without getting torn up by these rotton, giant thorny bushes. Any ideas?

Jeff Walker   Mon Jan 19 2009

There seems to be great confusion about 'Himalayan' berry. Could someone please post a photograph of leaf and berry. The type I am familiar with has a solid leaf 3-4" diameter with a 5 'lobule' edge. The only specimen I have seen since childhood in Victoria, Australia (70 years ago) will fruit in about 2 weeks so will post photo if this site permits. Jeff

Heinrich E. Weber   Wed Apr 8 2009

The plant treated here is in fact Rubus armeniacus Focke ('Himalayan', 'Theodor Reimers'), not Rubus procerus. The latter occurs only in the wild (Europe) and has never been grown in gardens. The correct (older) name for Rubus procerus P.J. Mueller is Rubus praecox Bertoloni.

Rubus anglocandicans... Illustriations of Rubus armeniacus and R. praecox (R. procerus).

Jeff   Sun Nov 8 2009

Mr. Weber is correct, the name is incorrect. However, beware of this plant! It should not be listed as a viable food plant outside of its native habitat. It is a highly invasive plant with very thick, long and thorny canes that continue to be thick, long and thorny for years after their death. Thorns are razor sharp and slice skin with ease. There is perhaps no better known invasive plant in the Pacific North West of the US/Canada than this one. They spread quickly through the cane rooting and birds dropping seeds. They are very difficult to eradicate and can quickly devour large parcels of land out competing natives. In a temperate climate with no animals to eat them, you (and neighbors, community) will with you never let it in your garden. This is no joke. There are other berry producing plants that are far more tame. The berries are large, abundant and flavorful. They are very seedy and not considered a good pie berry due to the seeds. They are a great wine berry. Common theme, these plants are better on someone else's property! Those with acreage eradicate at first site, if they are lucky not to have any already.

   Jan 11 2012 12:00AM

Yes, it is invasive in the Pacific NW (USA), but if you kept a team of goats to help manage it, they would happily oblige in assisting. It is a great favorite of theirs for forage. If someone wants to know where to find friendly goats for that purpose, I know of plenty of people who sell them...including myself. The berries from this species are amazing in syrups and jelly. If you had an otherwise unusable area of land, or a neglected fenceline, they would be a great addition.

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